Doesn't Look Like I'd Need Winter Stuff If It Wasn't For Flagstaff

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    • #5159

      Looks like average temperatures on the Midway Route for May are in the 75-82 highs and 59-52 lows range except for Flagstaff, AZ which is in the 68/35 temperature zone. I’m wondering if I just suffer through Flagstaff whether I even need to bring much cold weather gear. Probably one non leather coat (too bulky to pack leather) to go along with a long sleeved T-shirt should be enough, maybe one pair of ski gloves. I’m not much for rain gear in my home state of Arizona, wearing rain gear is too hot. Just wondering what other Midway Route folks have to say about the overall climate on the route.

      Paul Hurst

      US Navy, EM2, 1977-1983, USS Emory S. Land (AS-39)

      FNG Midway Route


    • #5168
      Pretty BoyPretty Boy

      I’ve started the day in a T-shirt in Angel Fire, NM at 8,000 feet, and also Williams, AZ.

      Just deal with it for the small amount of time you’re in the area. My humble opinion.

      Kirk "Pretty Boy" Olson
      Route Road Guard Captain - Central Route
      Central Route Road Guard - 2010-2019

      Participant 2009, 2015 | All the Way 2010-2014, 2016-2020
      2012 BMW K1600GT

    • #5170
      The MayorThe Mayor

      I hope the riders don’t think you’re normal Kirk!  You have the same distorted internal thermometer as that of my Father-In-Law.

      Jim "The Mayor" Frost
      USAF SSgt 66-69
      Bien Hoa AB, RVN 8/67-10/69

    • #5176

      Flagstaff is always a tough decision for Snapshot and I, especially because we ride two-up. I always consider leaving the leathers at home, but that being said, you also have to consider that we stage very early in the morning, and like all military operations, its hurry up and wait. It can get pretty cold prior to our departure, and that sun can take most of the morning ride before it thaws you out. Just the same, each year, I go through the same thought. How nice it would be if I didn’t have a saddlebag filled with leathers?

      As far as rain goes, last year was a dry year, but the year before we had three days in Texas/Oklahoma of the heaviest rain we’ve ever been in. So hard that we rode almost 100 miles at 35 mph with our flashers on, and you could barely see the bike ahead of you. Then we got hit again with a freezing rain as we entered Cookeville. I know some riders go without rain gear, but for my wife and I, we like to carry it.

      See you in Ontario,


      USAF 70 - 74
      Vietnam 71 - 73
      Combat Veterans Motorcycle Association 41-2 Reno, NV
      Midway Route FNG ATW 2015, TG 2016, TG 2017, TG 2018

    • #5181

      Since I plan for my kickstand to go up in the wee early hours of the morning on the 15th for the approximately 7.5 hour ride to Ontario, that means final packing should occur on the 14th. On the 14th, I’ll go online for a 10 day forecast for Flagstaff. It SHOULD be a fairly accurate forecast for the 17th which is Flagstaff day. I’ll make the decision about what to pack then, I’ll bet it’s for bitchin cold. I don’t expect to pack leathers in any event, too much room for too little expected usage. 15 days, 5 hours, and 30 minutes until I plan to head out.

      Paul Hurst

      US Navy, EM2, 1977-1983, USS Emory S. Land (AS-39)

      FNG Midway Route


    • #5185

      If you go to My they have a 15 day forecast.

      CR ATW 13,14,15. Participant 16, ATW 17, Participant18. ATW19

    • #5186

      Suggest you have “layers” available if you don’t want to bring winter gear. Rain gear is a great outer layer even if there is no rain- windbreaker. Once your cold (and wet) it’s hard to warm up.


      Midway Rear Road Guard

    • #5259

      Paul, I’m from Arizona too, so I don’t know much about rain… EXCEPT, you can plan on it at some time on the Run. A few years back on the Southern Route, we had record or near-record heat all the way to Chatanooga  TN, then things changed – It rained for 4 days straight, and not a warm rain. It was damp and in the 50’s when we hit DC. Last year was a “dream year” for weather, but all that can change in an instant. Rain gear is cheap, folds very flat and takes up little space….. and can make a day’s ride a lot easier!!

      USMC In-Country I Corps 69-70

      RFTW "Participant" 2003, 2004, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2018
      ATW 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2019

    • #5273

      Paul, consider leather for more protection than just cold.  Bugs, rocks, and debris are plentiful.  I’ve taken grasshoppers on the kneecaps more times than I care to remember.  Some with, some without the leather.  Having the leather is beneficial beyond explanation.  Also, being safety minded, I’m dedicated to ATGATT.  For lower leg protection, there are the “half-chaps” as well.  Understanding that you are used to an arid environment, rain can and will happen when you least expect it.  I’ve left La Junta at noon with temps in the 90’s and clear blue sky, with the clouds rolling in and needle rain hitting bare, sunburned arms half way to Limon.  Not fun.  Be prepared.  At every stop check the weather between where you are, and where you are going.  If you don’t like ridding wet, gear up; we don’t stop.  One tip you will hear “what are the road guards wearing?”.  I’ll be one, so you bet I’ll be taking measures to keep myself comfortable to keep watch over the pack.


      It’s MAY!!!!!  10-days, and I’ll be on my way to Ontario!  See you all there!

      Mary "Cynder" Melick
      Central Route
      Road Guard 2017, 2018
      Participant 2006, 2007, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2018
      All The Way 2016, 2017
      Fuel Team 2014, 2015
      Tail Gunner, Platoon 5 Wentzville east 2016
      2018 Harley Ultra Limited "Rebel Heart"

    • #5297

      Mary I will be watching you!!!


      See you soon!

      Kind regards.

      Edwin Musto - THUMB
      South African Defence Force - 1980-1982 - Corporal
      1 Maintenance Unit
      Quarter Master General Head Quarters
      2016 - (FNG) Central Route - All the way! Platoon 9
      2017 - Central Route - All the way on the Ambassador Team
      2018 - Central Route - All the way on Communications Team
      2020 - Central Route - Communications Team
      2020 - Sandbox Route - Wall to Wall on the Ambassador Team

    • #5302

      Ya ever ride in a hail storm with no leathers? Hurt don’t it.  Ever glide down the highway without your bike? Hurt don’t it. Dress for the Ride. Get my point?

      Where's Homer
      Tail gunner 2013/ 2017
      Ambassador 2014,2015. 2016
      US Army Medic 1966-1971

    • #5304
      The MayorThe Mayor

      Careful Thumb!  Remember that your wife will be with you this year… and we know what happened last year when she stayed in New Zealand.

      Back to the subject:  I’ve found that it’s usually easy to remove layers, and very difficult to put on something that you didn’t pack.

      Jim "The Mayor" Frost
      USAF SSgt 66-69
      Bien Hoa AB, RVN 8/67-10/69

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